An Elephant Hated, featuring Betsy Clayton

Just over a year after her last appearance, longtime friend Betsy Clayton joins to discuss doing your own thing for the right reasons and how bloated radio networks are the new elephant in the podcast room, but there are myriad other reasons to dislike them. Fair warning, this sucker weighs in at over 90 minutes, or about how long it takes to watch the average Jet Li film. I’ll leave it up to you to decide which is a better use of your time.

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